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i saw president obama on tv a month or so before election seen he wasn't concerned about the deficit. i have a question to ask that i've been wondering. to solve these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of the medicare program? >> guest: yes it does. it certainly does. part of the reason i like the right purpose on medicaid, essentially to broccoli and the program to the states -- this is not a cut in spending come up with in the future increases to population growth and inflation, something like that. we found the states do exactly what we did welfare in 1990s. most people on both sides argue well. the great thing about paul's proposal as it's not new stuff. a lot of it has to do is another context. what's new is he at the political courage and skill to put in a package you could pass out. >> host: the geo-plan is to create a fiscal crisis of them privatize social security and medicare. just go absolutely not true. looks great in the fiscal crisis is not done with medicare and social security right now. our aim is to say those programs and expand for fu
i saw president obama on tv a month or so before election seen he wasn't concerned about the deficit. i have a question to ask that i've been wondering. to solve these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of the medicare program? >> guest: yes it does. it certainly does. part of the reason i like the right purpose on medicaid, essentially to broccoli and the program to the states -- this is not a cut in spending come up with in the future increases to...
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i saw president obama on television about one month or so before the election saying he was not concerned about the deficit. i have a question. do all of the people on medicaid, that obama put on medicaid, does it come out of the medicaid program? guest: yes, it does. that is why i like paul ryan plan, which limits inflation growth. we find the states do better with exactly what we did on welfare in the 1990's. the great thing about paul's proposal is that it is not new. it has worked before. what is new that -- is that he had the political courage to put it in a package. host: con twitter, alabama, chris -- the gop plan is to create fiscal crisis that can privatize social security and medicare. guest: that is not true. our aim is to expand those programs for future generations. right now, everybody paying in is paying more than their parents and grandparents, and if we do not make changes they will get considerably less. let's sit down and deal with these things. if it is a math problem. we're not talking about getting rid of the program. we are talking about strengthening them. host: he
i saw president obama on television about one month or so before the election saying he was not concerned about the deficit. i have a question. do all of the people on medicaid, that obama put on medicaid, does it come out of the medicaid program? guest: yes, it does. that is why i like paul ryan plan, which limits inflation growth. we find the states do better with exactly what we did on welfare in the 1990's. the great thing about paul's proposal is that it is not new. it has worked before....
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if there was one thing clear in this last election is that president obama said, if you re-elect me, i'm going to be in favor of raising the rates and raising taxes on the super wealthy in our country. and guess what, al, he won. and he won big. that's where the american people are. >> one of the things that is also a major issue is they are attacking a stimulus portion of the president's offer because for $95 a billion to extend payroll tax cut, $50 billion to fund infrastructure projects like roads and bridges. so they are not only playing games on how they are going to deal with the question of tax cuts across the board but they are really attacking the stimulus part of the president's offer. >> well, you and i both know the best way to grow is from the middle out,ç not from the top down. the best way to get this economy going is to get some jobs out there for some people and that's in infrastructure, education, job restraining. we've got to get people back to work. then, when they've got the money, they can go out and start buying things and the business community will respond
if there was one thing clear in this last election is that president obama said, if you re-elect me, i'm going to be in favor of raising the rates and raising taxes on the super wealthy in our country. and guess what, al, he won. and he won big. that's where the american people are. >> one of the things that is also a major issue is they are attacking a stimulus portion of the president's offer because for $95 a billion to extend payroll tax cut, $50 billion to fund infrastructure...
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and i saw president obama on tv about a month or so before election and he wasn't concerned about the deficit. but i have a question that i have been wondering. does all these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of a medicare program? >> guest: yes, it does. it certainly does. and one of the reasons actually i like the proposal on medicaid is essentially to block the grant program back to the states this is not a cut in spending but we limit the future increases to population growth and inflation may be in plus one, something like that. we found the state's do exactly what we did with welfare in the 1990's which most people on both sides argue work well. the great thing about the proposal is that it is some new stuff. a lot of it has worked in other contexts. what is new is he had the political courage and skill to put it together in a package that you can pass out. >> host: the gop plan is to create a fiscal crisis so it can privatize social six devotee and medicare. >> guest: absolutely not true. what's creating the fiscal crisis is and dealing with med
and i saw president obama on tv about a month or so before election and he wasn't concerned about the deficit. but i have a question that i have been wondering. does all these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of a medicare program? >> guest: yes, it does. it certainly does. and one of the reasons actually i like the proposal on medicaid is essentially to block the grant program back to the states this is not a cut in spending but we limit the future...
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. >> he got barack obama elected. that's the view of "time" magazine. >> bill: isn't that a partisan thing? i mean maybe that's true but isn't that a partisan thing? he is a person of the year. >> i think you might be on to something. i think there might be partisanship over at "time" magazine. >> bill: that shouldn't be. that's not what we are in business to do here. >> let me make a bold prediction here. it's going to be barack obama. >> bill: yes, it will. that's what i said and you are right. if you agree with me you are right. this is what we should always -- >> i know how to works. [ laughter ] >> bill: he would have to be because the president overcame vast odds and shut have lost the election. let's be honest with the economic profile that we have and he won. did he something extraordinary and that i think has to be criteria. you can't discount psy. [ laughter ] there is a guy who has more than 800 million hits. >> tight race. >> bill: look at him. is that not the person of the year right there? i think the um
. >> he got barack obama elected. that's the view of "time" magazine. >> bill: isn't that a partisan thing? i mean maybe that's true but isn't that a partisan thing? he is a person of the year. >> i think you might be on to something. i think there might be partisanship over at "time" magazine. >> bill: that shouldn't be. that's not what we are in business to do here. >> let me make a bold prediction here. it's going to be barack obama. >>...
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stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this. in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers push information, the problem will continue. meanwhile, these poll numbers also show republicans are can't handle losing the election. 25% of republican voters say that they want to succeed from the union. and 19%, well, they're not really sure yet. it's safe to say that republicans are no longer the party of patriotism. a quarter of their members want nothing to do with this country. these misinformed republicans love to talk about our founding fathers. don't they always quote our founding fathers, those tea partyers out there? tonight i've pick
stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this. in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers push...
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obama won the election because obama promised american voters gifts and free things. he got a lost flak from democrats and republicans. look, this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. here is someone saying, wait, i voted for you, obama, now give me the free stuff. this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. >>eric: president obama ran the last campaign on things are getting better. give me for more years we are almost there. a very good indication of things are really getting better in the economy is food stamp use. food stamps are up to a record level. november showed 46 million people on food stamps. if things are getting better, how does that keep going up? >>guest: exactly. if you remember back during the campaign, obama was going around bragging saying, i saved detroit with the bailout. really? you saved detroit? is that why detroit is coming begging right now for money? it is insane. he is completely out of touch and he doesn't realize what this economy is like right now for every day folks. >>eric: thank you, michelle. >> there is supposed to
obama won the election because obama promised american voters gifts and free things. he got a lost flak from democrats and republicans. look, this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. here is someone saying, wait, i voted for you, obama, now give me the free stuff. this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. >>eric: president obama ran the last campaign on things are getting better. give me for more years we are almost there. a very good indication of things are really...
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it was an election in which president obama, unprecedented for a democrat, actually ran on a platform of raising taxes. he said, i'm going to raise taxes on the top 2% and he was re-elected resoundingly with it. to what ron said, if it's only $14 trillion, what's the big deal, go ahead and let the rich pay it? that's number one. number two, the other thing that's been exposed and what's true, what's always been true about conservativism is that the core principle is the rich don't pay too much, they pay too little. when they say things like broaden the tax base, they think it's a moral hazard to have a progressive tax code. you want a flatter tax code for those with less money pay more into the system. republicans have tried to talk around that because that's anç unpopular thing to tell your tea party base, middle class people, no, we think lower income people and middle income people should pay more. but when we strip away all the rhetoric about job creators and the rest, that is the core of conservativism. rich people should not pay more. they should pay less. poorer people should
it was an election in which president obama, unprecedented for a democrat, actually ran on a platform of raising taxes. he said, i'm going to raise taxes on the top 2% and he was re-elected resoundingly with it. to what ron said, if it's only $14 trillion, what's the big deal, go ahead and let the rich pay it? that's number one. number two, the other thing that's been exposed and what's true, what's always been true about conservativism is that the core principle is the rich don't pay too much,...
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the truth is, what the american people want and they have said in the election, you know, obama did win a major victory and the issue being debated was whether the wealthy are going to start paying their fair share of tacks what poll after poll says do not cut can social security and medicare and medicaid. ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their taxes. further, let's not forget, as a result of these rather bad agreements in 2010 and 2011, though i voted against, we've already cut a trillion dollars in programs for working families. >> you're right. the american people have said in the election as well as in the polling, 82% oppose reducing social security benefits. 67% oppose raising medicare eligibility age and 60% support raising taxes on the wealthy. so it doesn't even make political sense. >> that's what i don't get. and the other point, al, when they talk about changing the formula, so-called chain cpi for social security, let me tell you what it means. i want everybody to hear this. it means that if you're 65 today -- and this is going to go into effect immedi
the truth is, what the american people want and they have said in the election, you know, obama did win a major victory and the issue being debated was whether the wealthy are going to start paying their fair share of tacks what poll after poll says do not cut can social security and medicare and medicaid. ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their taxes. further, let's not forget, as a result of these rather bad agreements in 2010 and 2011, though i voted against, we've...
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stole the election for president obama. the good news is that is a drop of 3 percentage points since 2008, when 52% of republicans thought that a.c.o.r.n. stole the election for president obama. the bad news is that a.c.o.r.n. no longer exists, and so the 49% of republicans who still believe that a.c.o.r.n. stole this election for president obama are even more delusional than they were four years ago when the group thought they stole the election at least existed. some republicans are so bummed by the re-election of president obama that they don't want to live in america anymore.ç they also don't want to move. so 25% say they would like their state to secede from the union. only 56% of republicans want to remain americans. and 19% of republicans are still so dazed and confused they haven't been able to decide if they want to secede from the union. other republicans are making the saner choice of seceding from the party. in public policy polling's final poll before the election, they found that 37% of voters identified the
stole the election for president obama. the good news is that is a drop of 3 percentage points since 2008, when 52% of republicans thought that a.c.o.r.n. stole the election for president obama. the bad news is that a.c.o.r.n. no longer exists, and so the 49% of republicans who still believe that a.c.o.r.n. stole this election for president obama are even more delusional than they were four years ago when the group thought they stole the election at least existed. some republicans are so bummed...
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president obama showed a lot of concern for the victims before election day. where is the concern from the administration now? we continue with speaker gingrich. some people still don't have power. a lot of people lost their home, everything. so many people have been conditioned mr. speaker to put their faith, their hope, their trust in government. can we learn anything from here? >> you can learn two things. first of all, if the federal government can't do any better than this with sandy what is it going to do with obamacare? how comfortable are you that the same bureaucracy that can't deliver help in staten island is going to supervise your heart operation or cancer treatment this is what i talked in the last segment. house republicans should beholding hearings. they should look at katrina, lessons that were not learned, reforms that were not made. the things that were not done. sandy is not dramatically better than katrina in terms of performance of the federal government. when we developed a department of homeland security, the original idea was, you could
president obama showed a lot of concern for the victims before election day. where is the concern from the administration now? we continue with speaker gingrich. some people still don't have power. a lot of people lost their home, everything. so many people have been conditioned mr. speaker to put their faith, their hope, their trust in government. can we learn anything from here? >> you can learn two things. first of all, if the federal government can't do any better than this with sandy...
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romney and obama are sitting down for their first post election meeting. we have more on the meeting. what's the topic today? >> today at 12:30 it will be president obama and mitt romney in a room by themselves for a lunch that was arranged about a week after the election. there won't be any staff sitting with them. we are told the white house called and mitt romney accepted this information. romney aids say he has noah agenda. it's just going to be two adversaries sitting down for a social lunch. >> the president said that there are aspects of governor romney's record and governor romney's ideas that could be very helpful. governor romney did a terrific job running the state. the requested reorganization authority from the congress to do just that. >> we haven't heard from mitt romney since he came up short on leblgs day. we have seen him pumping his own gas and riding roller-coaster in california went viral. today's lunch comes a little over 6 weeks after the two men were basically at each other's throat arguing about the administration's response to the
romney and obama are sitting down for their first post election meeting. we have more on the meeting. what's the topic today? >> today at 12:30 it will be president obama and mitt romney in a room by themselves for a lunch that was arranged about a week after the election. there won't be any staff sitting with them. we are told the white house called and mitt romney accepted this information. romney aids say he has noah agenda. it's just going to be two adversaries sitting down for a...
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speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating division, and believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise on tax rates? >> the revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker. roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level deal at this time? >>
speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating division, and believe that it's inevitable that...
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in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico he and ronald reagan never sat down for this kind of conversation. and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in
in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico...
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representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again. >> governor, it is nice to see you again. >> jennifer: all right. so do you think republicans have recovered from losing the election? >> well, i think we have. i think there's no question that although president obama got less of the popular vote than he did the last time around, his electoral college numbers went up. he won. but the other thing that i would say to you governor, is senate republicans, the american people voted for the status quo. they kept the republicans running the majority in the house of representatives to keep a check on the executive branch and so while we did take a shellacking in the presidential election, we
representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again....
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. >>> ahead, president obama back in campaign mode, and, later, the election ended four weeks ago, but some people are still voting. how one lingering race might affect speaker boehner's future negotiations with the white house. do you really think brusg is enough to keep it clean? while brushing misses germs in 75% of your mouth, listerine® cleans virtually your entire mouth. so take your oral health to a whole new level. listerine®... power to your mouth™. look this isn't my...
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. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a lump of coal delivered by the republican reindee
. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the...
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out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention? >> very thought provoking although perhaps not universally true. like maybe if somebody got a tattoo on their face that said i'm shy. in any event, if it was attention he was looking for, he definitely got it although the romney tattoo will soon fade into nothing but a cheeky memory, eric's place on the "ridiculist," that i promise you, is permanent. that does it for us. see you again one hour from now. erin burnett's "outfront" starts now. >>> 28 days away, what does it take for a deal? and the use of chemical weapons will bring an immediate reaction from the community. our panel, we'll ask them if the united
out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention?...
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>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majorit
>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican...
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. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people. richard, they lost some seats. they lost the election. is the fever about to break? >> it's interesting he used the language because that was the same language that vice president biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, t
. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people....
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certainly a post election, perhaps post partisan moment. as politico points out this morning, like most washington rituals this get-together was likely more about symbolism than substance. rarely do once fierce rivals become political friends. so why even do it? and are there exceptions to the rules? let's put it through the spin cycle. look, i think because there's going to be no substance in this lunch anyway, i think the symbolism here really is important. i'm still waiting for you to jump in here. but the symbolism is important because, yes, for the american people to show that after a hugely expensive, nasty campaign that these two fellows can come together and sit down and meet with each other. but i think overseas it sends an even more important message. again, hugely expensive. hugely nasty campaign. these two guys come together and yet no one died. no one went to jail to some secret prison for voting for mitt romney. >> that we know of. >> this shows sort of the beauty of the american political system. that's why this is important.
certainly a post election, perhaps post partisan moment. as politico points out this morning, like most washington rituals this get-together was likely more about symbolism than substance. rarely do once fierce rivals become political friends. so why even do it? and are there exceptions to the rules? let's put it through the spin cycle. look, i think because there's going to be no substance in this lunch anyway, i think the symbolism here really is important. i'm still waiting for you to jump...
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>>> plus, the election may be over, but president obama's lead over mitt romney keeps growing as the final numbers continue to come in. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs every year. call today to request a free decision guide. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a sp
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i take president obama for his word. what he said publicly at that press conference after his elections. they may have talked about some of those issues. i think they'll have an open channel of communication. >> what are republicans going to be looking for mitt romney to do in the future? >> probably raise more money. he had a great campaign team and staff around him. you know, who he supports in 2016 will matter. if he chooses to do that. >> okay, we have to take one more quick break. as we look at this good samaritan picture, the roundtable is going to weigh in on where they find hope in politics. that's next. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generation
i take president obama for his word. what he said publicly at that press conference after his elections. they may have talked about some of those issues. i think they'll have an open channel of communication. >> what are republicans going to be looking for mitt romney to do in the future? >> probably raise more money. he had a great campaign team and staff around him. you know, who he supports in 2016 will matter. if he chooses to do that. >> okay, we have to take one more...
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voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and perhaps in the 2016 presidential election. we already hear some rumblings about perry getting back into the race, santorum -- >> oh, lord help us, no. please. >> i swear. >> please, no, not the return of rick perry. you cannot be serious. >> i swear to you. >> oh, lord. okay, jimmy, mr. cuccinelli, he sued over obama care, lost. sued the epa, lost. is there anything more dangerous to a political party than a leader who consistently picks fight he loses? >> how many times do you have to lose to be kaumd a loser. >> right. >> let's be honest about this, you have -- an
voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and...
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the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of agreement. >> let's put aside the right wing here. we know that speaker boehner purged some of those seen as not being team players within his own party and we'll discuss the fact he's taken a hit for that. beyond the right wing or whatever you have numbers. you have exit polling. you have pew research poll that shows where the american people stand. if all of the people are there to represent us, meaning the people who are watching right now and the panel included here, we are all americans, we pay taxes, then why isn't this work getting done? >> well, just look at speaker boehner's fiscal cliff p
the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of...
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but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the democratic party have to do to win our vote? actually, just be around. so it's time for us as a people to start putting our principles first. i think we should be ashamed of ourselves in certain areas, those who decided that the education is so important to them, they have a passion for it. why would you vote for a person who decides the union is much more important for them. >> in other words, school choice. i'm going to read from the notes. you tell me if i'm wrong. but this is tough stuff. you say in your notes, obama is the most aggressive anti-black policymaker in modern history. that's tough
but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the...
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president obama did win the election. you know, an event has happened as part of the many months where the public comes down on this. >> luke russert, john boehner did yesterday come out with their proposal, the house proposal. is that a nonstarter or move the ball a little bit? >> i would say it's a nonstarter for the white house, but it moves the ball a little bit in the sense it gives us an idea of what the house gop conference would be willing to accept and that is really to put it in place, caps, specific numbers, that could be worked on next year. essentially you're going to bank specific things the white house would give. perhaps an increase in the medicare age. perhaps a change in the cpi in terms of how social security is doled out. the idea that's what the plan would possibly look like. that was a movement more towards the center. as president obama said it's unacceptable. when i was walking over here i spoke to a senior republican senator and he pretty much said look, we accept that eventually these rates on th
president obama did win the election. you know, an event has happened as part of the many months where the public comes down on this. >> luke russert, john boehner did yesterday come out with their proposal, the house proposal. is that a nonstarter or move the ball a little bit? >> i would say it's a nonstarter for the white house, but it moves the ball a little bit in the sense it gives us an idea of what the house gop conference would be willing to accept and that is really to put...
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it was telling its members all during this year leading up to the election that president obama, if re-elected, would not only take away your gun freedom but all our freedoms, and if that isn't fear-mongering, i don't know what is. >> it's interesting that the gun -- anti-gun lobbying group, the brady campaign, gave the president an f on gun control policy during his first term. how do you explain that, that the president doesn't really seem to be winning from either group on either side? >> no. he has never done anything to advance gun control. as i said, he signed two measures that make it easier to take guns into certain places, and he has never done anything or said anything really to indicate that he has firm plans to impose strict gun controls on the country. i don't believe that he thinks the issue is worth fighting because so many people feel so strongly on the other side. liberals have traditionally, and i think obama has done in his first term given up arguing for strict gun control. i argue that strict gun control alone is not going to solve the undeniable problem with gun violence
it was telling its members all during this year leading up to the election that president obama, if re-elected, would not only take away your gun freedom but all our freedoms, and if that isn't fear-mongering, i don't know what is. >> it's interesting that the gun -- anti-gun lobbying group, the brady campaign, gave the president an f on gun control policy during his first term. how do you explain that, that the president doesn't really seem to be winning from either group on either side?...
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one thing we didn't talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seemed to think voting in '08 was an aberration and a fluke. that was a wrong assumption. the second thing they missed was a lot of polls, even some of the polls nbc did showed republican enthusiasm was a little higher than democratic enthusiasm in some states. the campaign took that to mean the democrats weren't going to turn out. some tea partiers were really excited but a lot of democrats were just as excited. >> right. karen, into today's "new york times" timothy egan writes, if you believe in climate change, finding a path to citizenship for millions of hard working hispanics, and the right to marry the person you love, there is no place in the republican party of 2012 for you. when you toss in romney's contempt for 47% of the country and the ayn rand budget of paul ryan, it's hard to imagine romney himself believed these internal polls. >> appar
one thing we didn't talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seemed to think voting in '08 was an aberration and a fluke. that was a wrong assumption. the second thing they missed was a lot of polls, even some of the polls nbc did showed republican enthusiasm was a little higher than democratic enthusiasm in some states....
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so president obama was re-elected by a wider margin than george bush was. some fluke. but then you have strategist stewart stevens even defending romney's claim that president obama used gifts to win the election. listen to this, karen. >> i don't think that's what he was saying. i think he was saying that there's an effort that the incumbent used, as many other incumbents have used, to reach out to constituents. that's something that we've seen in politics going back to a long time. they did it effectively and they have certain groups that they wanted to do well with and they did well. >> that's utterly nonsense. that's intelligence of the public. he was not talking about the traditional way. he was saying, as they said throughout the campaign, he was giving things away, handouts, which was an insult to the president and to those constituent groups and the fact is that people voted based on the president's record and his ideas and he got a larger margin. in fact, he will probably go to 51% of the electorate. >> i actually wrote about this for msnbc.com last week. this
so president obama was re-elected by a wider margin than george bush was. some fluke. but then you have strategist stewart stevens even defending romney's claim that president obama used gifts to win the election. listen to this, karen. >> i don't think that's what he was saying. i think he was saying that there's an effort that the incumbent used, as many other incumbents have used, to reach out to constituents. that's something that we've seen in politics going back to a long time. they...
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if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from arurubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in com
if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with...
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mitt romney is stepping back into the spotlight three weeks after losing to president obama in the election. the former political rivals are having lunch today at the white house. jim costa has details. >> his departure on election night was quick and painful. just like that mitt romney was gone from the public stage. at his victory speech president obama had other ideas. >> in the weeks ahead i have ideas of sitting down governor romney to talk about how we could work together. >> i do think he did it all terrific job running the olympics. we accomplished that together so thank you. >> net after romney plays a visit to his former running mate some much-needed bipartisanship may be served. the gop nominee and the presidents sit down behind closed doors at the white house. press secretary says romney ideas for comincutting government waste at the president's cup tie. >> romney's image could use an overhaul. one week after the election he told the owners on a conference call the president's campaign was following a zero playbook. giving a lot of stuff to groups specifically the african americ
mitt romney is stepping back into the spotlight three weeks after losing to president obama in the election. the former political rivals are having lunch today at the white house. jim costa has details. >> his departure on election night was quick and painful. just like that mitt romney was gone from the public stage. at his victory speech president obama had other ideas. >> in the weeks ahead i have ideas of sitting down governor romney to talk about how we could work together....
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this is big news. >>> barack obama was projected to be the winner of the 2012 election at 11:12 eastern time by nbc news and msnbc on election night. the next day the president led by two percentage points in the popular vote, roughly a 2.6 million vote lead in the raw vote. well, 22 days later, we're still collecting data and the president's lead over mitt romney is actually growing, thanks to our friend david wasserman at the political report who has been keeping the vote tallies up to date. the president's vote total actually increased by 2 million to a lead of over 4 million votes, 4.5 million votes. here is the current total here, 65 million votes for the president. if you round it up it would be 51. for mitt romney 47%. not exactly a number he wants to be thinking about. let's go through a few states. in florida what we reported on election day was at the recount number, less than 50,000 vote lead for the president. his lead expanded to about 75,000, still less than a percentage vote. florida clearly incredibly close. ohio was a two-point margin on election day. on election night
this is big news. >>> barack obama was projected to be the winner of the 2012 election at 11:12 eastern time by nbc news and msnbc on election night. the next day the president led by two percentage points in the popular vote, roughly a 2.6 million vote lead in the raw vote. well, 22 days later, we're still collecting data and the president's lead over mitt romney is actually growing, thanks to our friend david wasserman at the political report who has been keeping the vote tallies up...